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Post by firefightertom on Sept 10, 2006 16:21:24 GMT -5
How often do you train deads?
I am considering once every two weeks.
I also have a hard time holding onto the bar when I go heavy.
I use an alternated grip with thumbs wrapped. I have to alternate my hand position.
any ideas Derek?
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Post by gopostal42 on Sept 10, 2006 20:39:42 GMT -5
every 2 weeks should be fine as long as you dont go real heavy each time. i would suggest finding a max when you have some training time way before a meet and then start on a coan/phillipi deadlift routine. you can do that routine weekly or interchange it with box squats every other week. as far as grip goes, static holds in a rack for time would be good along with farmers walk. you can train the grip work with a thumbless cup grip if you feel frisky also. are you pulling sumo or conventional?
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Post by firefightertom on Sept 10, 2006 21:17:25 GMT -5
as you know the deadlift is my weakest lift. I bench (raw) thumbless and equipped wrapped. Maybe that is what I need on the deadlift.
I am in between a conventional and sumo. My arms are outside of my legs but my legs are wider than a normal conventional deadlifter. I goofed around and went up to 400 pretty easy buy my grip is not too good as I get heavier.
thanks
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Post by tadpole on Sept 12, 2006 19:32:00 GMT -5
fire man you need to strat hook gripin so you don`t have any trouble with the bar coming out of your hands man it`s the best grip for deads easy on the shoulders and much easyer to push your hips thru at lockout to
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Post by gopostal42 on Sept 12, 2006 19:50:24 GMT -5
fire man you need to strat hook gripin so you don`t have any trouble with the bar coming out of your hands man it`s the best grip for deads easy on the shoulders and much easyer to push your hips thru at lockout to if you can do it with heavy weight its definitely the best way to go as far as biomechanics. takes a real good grip though |
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Post by Joey Smith on Sept 13, 2006 8:25:30 GMT -5
What are static holds?....do you have a pic or vid?....  |
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Post by gopostal42 on Sept 13, 2006 8:56:37 GMT -5
What are static holds?....do you have a pic or vid?.... static holds are a rack pull off a high pin held at lockout for a long period of time to create grip strength for the deadlift. this is the position you should be in during a static hold. of course straps are a no no here.  you can do timed sets of 10-30 seconds with a lighter weight or go heavier and do timed sets to failure. you could do the same thing with db's or farmers walk handles. |
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Post by tadpole on Sept 13, 2006 10:53:52 GMT -5
you don`t have to have a good grip to pull hook man your thumbs lock it in
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Post by gopostal42 on Sept 13, 2006 11:33:54 GMT -5
you don`t have to have a good grip to pull hook man your thumbs lock it in its been my experience that you do. i've seen several people use it (including myself) and it lasts until the weights get heavy then they start to slip. of course everyone is different and it may work better for some people but for most its easier to use the switch grip, hence you see most people using it. |
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Post by firefightertom on Sept 13, 2006 18:27:22 GMT -5
fire man you need to strat hook gripin so you don`t have any trouble with the bar coming out of your hands man it`s the best grip for deads easy on the shoulders and much easyer to push your hips thru at lockout to I have heard of it. I may give it a try. |
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Post by tadpole on Sept 13, 2006 21:29:31 GMT -5
fire trust me it works look at my video of my deads it`s easyer to push your hips thu and will take off anywere from 5-10 '' off the stroke of your pull
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Post by gopostal42 on Sept 13, 2006 22:07:52 GMT -5
fire man you need to strat hook gripin so you don`t have any trouble with the bar coming out of your hands man it`s the best grip for deads easy on the shoulders and much easyer to push your hips thru at lockout to I have heard of it. I may give it a try. good luck tom, you can try using wrist wraps to compress the tendons in your wrist just wrap them a little lower than normal. some guys swear buy it and some think its bs, but i like it. |
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Post by jonathan on Sept 27, 2006 12:50:01 GMT -5
Tadpole is the man on this issue, he convinced me at the last meet to try it in my warm ups and I went with it and ended the day with a PR! I personally see no way it could slip unless your thumb pulled off. Suck it up and deal with the 3 seconds of pain and hit a PR!!!!!!!
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Post by tadpole on Sept 27, 2006 21:58:26 GMT -5
well said jonathan sometimes poeple just don`t want to listen to world champs that are trying to help them so maybe I`ll keep my mouth shut from now on great job on that PR at the meet to man
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Post by Joey Smith on Sept 27, 2006 22:16:44 GMT -5
well said jonathan sometimes poeple just don`t want to listen to world champs that are trying to help them so maybe I`ll keep my mouth shut from now on great job on that PR at the meet to man Hey Brett trust me brother we are listening my friend!....I always listen to a world class lifter like yourself....you are right alot of top lifters use the hook grip and there must be a reason for that....Kyle, Tony, Ox, Travis, Brett, Wade, my boy Rodney....all use this grip and have had great success with it, now you have Team Torture doing it with great results....keep commenting Brett....you are well respected my friend and your opion is important for all of us to learn by....you are a national champion for a reason....  |
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