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Post by firefightertom on Oct 13, 2006 8:35:30 GMT -5
I looked at that post. I will explain it.
Sean Lyte is always kidding about getting rid of the bench press in competition. He is not serious and I know he is kidding because he is not at all a bench presser. I have met him and know him at least a little.
I was teasing him about teaching people to bench. I saw Barry's post and figured that it was for whoever started that thread. It wasnt me and I figured his post wasnt for me.
Now I know otherwise.
Derek is right. I dont care what you take or do as long as it doesnt effect me. You can play with a gun if you want but if you do it in a room with me I will speak up.
Barry and Joey:
Now that I have explained myself and that post I would like for the two of you to explain yours.
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Post by gopostal42 on Oct 13, 2006 9:39:11 GMT -5
I looked at that post. I will explain it. Sean Lyte is always kidding about getting rid of the bench press in competition. He is not serious and I know he is kidding because he is not at all a bench presser. I have met him and know him at least a little. i didnt even think about that! i've seen him talk crap about his own bench and didnt have a second thought about that being a joke or how that looked otherwise.  you're a terrible person tom, picking on people who cant bench  |
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Post by firefightertom on Oct 13, 2006 10:03:26 GMT -5
Sean is one of those deadlifters. You know how they are derek.
I have to admit that whoever started that thread using the words "drug pigs" was in poor taste. I am a "buffet pig" and I take offense to people calling me that.
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Post by Trea on Oct 13, 2006 10:34:31 GMT -5
Why? I'm a buffet pig and proud of it, I've been told I would have to purchase a second meal if I went back for anymore. :-0
I say can't we all just get along, screw who's doing what I'm here to learn from everyone.
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Post by Barry Williams on Oct 13, 2006 17:35:02 GMT -5
I don't know who started the thread. But I'm not so shallow that I don't take advice from others. As far as "drug pig" or whatever was used; I can hear that as being part of an excuse.
ie "That drug pig just handed me my ass. That has to be the reason he's stronger than me. There's no way in Hell it could be the simple fact that he trains harder or smarter."
The whole Holier than thou state of mind has no place in the sport. This isn't the NFL, NHL, MLBB, or the Olympics. There are places for EVERY athlete to train and compete.
I just read Paul Bossis'** article in PL USA for drug free lifters. Hey, it's the same routine I've followed for about 2 years. Paul runs a great orginization (100% RAW) but his article could have been called " A gret routine for a much stronger bench" and left the drug references out. At the end it would have still been the same great bench routine.
I look at this the same way I look at most of life; from MY point of view. I've tried to live by "Don't condem or condone" when it comes to drug use. As long as your lifting with your peers on a level playin field, who cares.
My comments weren't meant for any one individual; I would have done that on the phone, e mail or in person. Just the overall ignorance of the subject was enough to irk me. How anyone could say they can't learn from another person has to be the dumbest shit I had ever read.
There are way to many Know it alls now. The sport is full of "World Class this and thats". My advice would be to go win a little something or beat someone that counts before you write any books or open your mouth. When I need advice I'll go to a REAL doctor or someone with ACTUAL/PRACTICAL knowledge on the subject.
This subject as a whole is dead. I have nothing else I can add without being considered rude.
** Read Paul's interview in the interview section. A good guy who probably puts way more into PL than he could ever get back.
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Post by firefightertom on Oct 13, 2006 20:03:32 GMT -5
Barry: Barry: I thought ....after seeing Joey's post that you were mad at me and had posted for me. I agree with you on almost everything that you just posted above. Great post Barry....I believe Tom I is a man caught up in stirring shit....thats a shame he feels he needs to push how he feels on everyone....dictatorship can rule people with an iron fist....hell it dont matter to me if I had to learn how to bench from a Nun....if the bitch can lift I will listen....We need to try and work togehter as a team or we will die as individuals in this sport....help is everywhere and people whom care are all around....one day the karma God will strike down on the "I am better than thou drug free bullshit"....and like Barry said those side spottrers might be the dreaded "juicers from hell" that you need to save your goodie goodie ass life from being smashed....I wonder since I dont like fish that maybe I will condemn fisherman?....mmmmm....maybe they are from hell as well....Nah....they alright by me....food for thought.... PS - I think its great that so many goodies come on here trolling and watching and reading and learning but hating like fuck....I know their IP'S now and know who they are....funny....hypocrites.... ;D Joey: I dont know who did what to you or whatever. I think you are quick to judge. You are like....dont judge me I can do whatever I want. You are becoming what you are preaching against. Dont judge me. If I made you mad in the past about something keep in mind that I use my name and you knew who it was that said it. Ya gotta respect that. I can learn and have fun with anybody but I dont think that I can straddle this line any more. Later |
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Post by clark on Oct 13, 2006 23:02:15 GMT -5
whats a drug pig?  do they taste the same...;.are they cheaper??? my balls hurt......what does bashing mean...am I pretty......can anyone else read this......is this thing on....I'm not really interested in her age.....do I look fat in this...can anyone else see Erik Estrada's picture on the ad at the top of the page....I'm hungry...that drug pig and some doped up chicken eggs sure would be good right now... |
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Post by gopostal42 on Oct 13, 2006 23:24:32 GMT -5
whats a drug pig? do they taste the same is that what red BBQ comes from? |
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Post by Joey Smith on Oct 14, 2006 12:36:20 GMT -5
Tom I have unfortunately allowed you to roll this controversy of yours on to this board....I said what I said because each and every time I read something from you weather it is here, power lifting watch or whatever there always seems to be this negativity towards others you have. Brother believe me this site is and will always be about unity of NC power lifters, that’s why I started this site in the first place. I just cant stand when certain individuals in this sport feel they need to chastise others because they are not like them, do not lift with them or are not a part of their "group". I have not deleted this discussion like I have seen other forums delete others thoughts or comments. I respect everyone in this sport till I feel my brethren have been disrespected. Tom you do not have any other posts on here or a log or comments of congrtas, or passivity of any kind here. Your posts consist of negativity or division. One more thing do not call me out on judging people. You started this thread; you say the things you have said on other forums, not me. Don’t try to drag me to the level you seem to enjoy. Last time I checked this site was created for all lifters in NC were they could get some recognition, see comp pics, a place to come and learn and meet others and gain new friendships, establishing putting the records together so others could get noticed for their achievements, getting all NC APF results to POWERLIFTING USA so lifers in this state could be seen and heard from on their accomplishments and get noticed.... what have you done?....why is it that we have forums on here for others to express their expertise on matters where others can learn?....why is it I have a Iron Boy member as a Moderator on here?....why is that we never discuss drug free or juiced on here?....why is it that we don’t talk about "juice on here?....The reason why to allot of these quandaries is because we only care about lifting, helping others and learning not weather or not your hair is red, your skin color is black, white, purple or whatever....weather you use or don’t....its about allot of things you seem to not understand....UNITY, FRIENDSHIPS, COMMRADERY, FELLOWSHIP, LEARNING, ACHEIVING GOALS, HELPING, TEACHING....this is what I am about and the people on this site is about....if you don’t like those reason change the channel and cause controversy somewhere else....other wise be a help here and not a hindrance....  |
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Post by MINX on Oct 17, 2006 15:00:57 GMT -5
"help not a hindrance" - very well said joey; i think that can be applied basically anywhere. i wish this board had been around oh, about a year ago when I was the subject of the bashings man that was rough... for some reason this debate seems to rile people up more than anything else. but in all honesty i think our NC lifters have done a great job of helping and supporting each other. this board is a great place to come and learn (i even direct some of my clients here for lifting and nutrition info). i agree that we shouldn't have a lot of threads on types of drugs to use and opinions on length of cycles and all that crap. we all know that drugs are part of powerlifting- it's your choice whether you use of not, but that doesn't mean that your choice makes you better or worse that anyone else. i myself am trying very hard to promote NC powerlifting (we have a meet coming up soon at my gym!) and seeing a bunch of drug controversy on here just makes the board look bad in general. ESPECIALLY to new lifters or those interested in getting into the sport. let's focus on the subjects joey mentioned- mainly unity, lifting and supporting each other regardless of fed affiliation. if we don't glorify drug-free lifting then we shouldn't glorify drugs either. there are plenty of other places to go and talk about that; don't let the official NC APF board be known for this sort of material. ~MINX |
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Post by COOKE on Oct 17, 2006 15:51:57 GMT -5
i take tylenol and sleeping pills, i guess i am labeled now. it feels good to come out with that. i feel the weight of the world has been lifted off of me. wow this is so liberating. oh i forgot my bipolar med. as well, now you all know the truth. damn
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Post by Barry Williams on Oct 17, 2006 15:58:26 GMT -5
i take tylenol and sleeping pills, i guess i am labeled now. it feels good to come out with that. i feel the weight of the world has been lifted off of me. wow this is so liberating. oh i forgot my bipolar med. as well, now you all know the truth. damn Damn junkie..... |
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Post by COOKE on Oct 17, 2006 18:59:49 GMT -5
that hurt barry . you know i'm an emotional wreck right now getting ready for kyles meet. i knew i'd be labeled. |
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Post by MINX on Oct 18, 2006 11:15:42 GMT -5
tylenol and sleeping pills?? geez, you're like a 300lb Eminem. you should write a rap song... ~MINX |
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Post by maxson on Oct 18, 2006 17:29:44 GMT -5
i'm still trying to fugure out what clark wrote.
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you're a terrible person tom, picking on people who cant bench 
do they taste the same...;.are they cheaper??? my balls hurt......what does bashing mean...am I pretty......can anyone else read this......is this thing on....I'm not really interested in her age.....do I look fat in this...can anyone else see Erik Estrada's picture on the ad at the top of the page....I'm hungry...that drug pig and some doped up chicken eggs sure would be good right now...
