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Post by firefightertom on Aug 31, 2006 9:03:45 GMT -5
I was just interested in your experiences and opinion of many of the drug free guys / girls in our sport.
I am not making a statement or anything. Just trying to see how you all feel about things.
Tom
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Post by gopostal42 on Aug 31, 2006 9:30:03 GMT -5
interesting poll tom, i voted i dont care just lift. as long as users dont lift in tested meets all is good!
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Post by firefightertom on Aug 31, 2006 10:07:35 GMT -5
I am a drug free lifter. I just have been doing some thinking. I dont need to be on a bandwagon or anything. I was curious about how some of the other people felt about us.
I thought this poll would be a cool way to find out.
There is no right answer.
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Post by Joey Smith on Aug 31, 2006 13:03:55 GMT -5
Well here we go again....what do I think of the hunger in Africa, whta about smokers?....what do I think about parents that child abuse thier kids....why cant we just lift weights, make new friends, learn new training techniques, have fun, support one another and get strong?....whats wrong with that?....why does it have to be drug free, drug free, tested, raw, equipped, wrist wraps, whatever all the time?....how about do you have children and where do ya work, hows your family kinda stuff?....I hate these debates about the drug free this and i take juice that....its stupid....I judge noone....I want to see everyone succeed and meet their personal goal in the gym and in life....as long as your smoking, drinking, eating twinkies ;D, taking steriods, doing crack, eating Big Macs, digging in your butt, watching Sex in the CITY OR WHATEVER DOES NOT EFFECT ME OR MY FAMILY, then we are fine....too many people think they are the judge and jury on this and it pisses me off!....who cares!....enjoy what we do and have fun, get strong enjoy life and stop harping on what others do that do not effect you....  |
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Post by firefightertom on Aug 31, 2006 15:29:28 GMT -5
that tells me pretty much what I wanted to know.
Who harped?
peace to you all
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Post by gopostal42 on Aug 31, 2006 21:42:09 GMT -5
i didn't really see any harping there, there was a poll on the perception non tested lifters and now there's one about the perception of tested ones. i see what you mean as far as there always being that discusion but i dont see it going away unfortunately. too many insecurities on both sides trying to compare numbers saying "what if" and "if they did or didnt use that then...". it'll on steroids and equipment til the end of time unless there is an end all meet that has every lifter on the planet lift raw single ply and double ply and everybody total all that together and see what the 9 lift totals would be. along with everybody doing it all over again while using steroids too. anybody wanna set that meet up? by the way as far as digging in your butt watching sex in the city, i'm firmly against it in public, but the twinkie eating while butt digging is alright.
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Post by Barry Williams on Sept 3, 2006 3:39:40 GMT -5
Kinda like postal on this one. It opens some minds and eyes. There isn't as much difference as people would like to think. We all lift for the same reasons. Seeing two of the NSP guys on here reinforces my beliefs that we all should support each other. I know some people don't care for the subject; but as long as it's an educated discussion it has to help. It just makes sense to me to be well educated and unbiased on the subject. As long as it's not a witch burning then some good can come from it.
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Post by clark on Sept 3, 2006 10:17:20 GMT -5
I smoked pot one time............  |
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Post by Trea on Sept 3, 2006 12:01:51 GMT -5
I smoked pot one time............ Just once? |
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Post by clark on Sept 3, 2006 19:41:26 GMT -5
it may have been more but my short term memory is not as good as it used to be
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Post by firefightertom on Sept 4, 2006 7:43:13 GMT -5
Kinda like postal on this one. It opens some minds and eyes. There isn't as much difference as people would like to think. We all lift for the same reasons. Seeing two of the NSP guys on here reinforces my beliefs that we all should support each other. I know some people don't care for the subject; but as long as it's an educated discussion it has to help. It just makes sense to me to be well educated and unbiased on the subject. As long as it's not a witch burning then some good can come from it. I agree with you Barry. I have no hate and I hope it is the same on the other side. I think some people think I wanted to start a debate or something. Not so. I may not lift in the APF but I may just come to some meets and help people out with gear etc.. Barry did that for maxson so we really arent much different. |
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Post by Barry Williams on Oct 11, 2006 16:55:12 GMT -5
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Post by gopostal42 on Oct 11, 2006 17:08:45 GMT -5
"Why should it matter what another lifter does as long as they compete WITHIN THE RULES."
great post barry
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Post by Joey Smith on Oct 11, 2006 22:18:41 GMT -5
Great post Barry....I believe Tom I is a man caught up in stirring shit....thats a shame he feels he needs to push how he feels on everyone....dictatorship can rule people with an iron fist....hell it dont matter to me if I had to learn how to bench from a Nun....if the bitch can lift I will listen....We need to try and work togehter as a team or we will die as individuals in this sport....help is everywhere and people whom care are all around....one day the karma God will strike down on the "I am better than thou drug free bullshit"....and like Barry said those side spottrers might be the dreaded "juicers from hell" that you need to save your goodie goodie ass life from being smashed....I wonder since I dont like fish that maybe I will condemn fisherman?....mmmmm....maybe they are from hell as well....Nah....they alright by me....food for thought....
PS - I think its great that so many goodies come on here trolling and watching and reading and learning but hating like fuck....I know their IP'S now and know who they are....funny....hypocrites.... ;D
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Post by gopostal42 on Oct 12, 2006 11:31:16 GMT -5
Great post Barry....I believe Tom I is a man caught up in stirring shit....thats a shame he feels he needs to push how he feels on everyone trust me he's not the kind to try and stir up trouble, he has respect for every aspect of powerlifting. i understand you being frustrated with the debate in general but tom isnt a hater at all, unlike a few other people you may be thinking of. |
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